> > 2/ Agree with Bob that online meetings make it a lot more difficult to participate when the time doesn't agree with the local time. IETF 109 was 9pm-3am for me too, I chose to skip due to day job obligations. > This is a consistent message from US participants, but one that I do understand. Given that attending F2F would require a week of OOO, ie with IETF getting priority and day job often postponed, why does the fact that it is virtual mean that IETF becomes secondary? Stewart