OK, we can make the explanation better, of course.
Regards
Brian
(via tiny screen & keyboard)
Brian
(via tiny screen & keyboard)
On Sat, 12 Dec 2020, 14:28 Christian Huitema, <huitema@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Maybe I am old school, I was looking at the TXT. The HTML provides us
with circles instead of ASCII squares, and that's certainly prettier.
And I think I understand now why I was confused. I was expecting a Venn
diagram showing the intersections of methods 1, 2, and 3. Instead,
Figures 1 and 2 are showing the intersection of method 1, (methods 2+3),
and the 2020 volunteers list. I assume the point is to demonstrate that
the new methods are a superset of the old one, but it appears to not be
a complete superset since 1 volunteer is excluded. That would be worth a
bit of explanation.
Figures 3 and 4 show the intersection of method 2 and 3 with "The
discarded path via IESG and IAB service", shown as path "I". It took me
some time to understand what that meant. I assume that at some point,
there was a proposal to automatically qualify prior members of the IESG
or IAB within some time horizon. I also assume that that was discussed
at length on the mailing list and so appear sobvious to a number of
readers of the draft. And I also assume that the diagrams are there to
argue that "see, we don't need this IESG/IAB criteria, all relevant
people are qualified via path 2 or 3 anyhow." Let's say that your text
is a little bit dry, as it took me some time to fill in the blanks.
-- Christian Huitema
On 12/11/2020 2:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> Christian,
>
> I did try that, before Carsten taught us how to do the Venn diagrams in ASCII. But the results didn't seem at all readable to me. Don't we want to encourage people to look at the HTML format these days?
>
> Regards
> Brian
>
> On 12-Dec-20 09:02, Christian Huitema wrote:
>> Just a minor nit for an otherwise good looking draft: I have a hard time reading and understanding the Venn-diagrams-as-ascii-art in the "available data" appendix. Would it be possible to also provide the same data in tabular format?
>>
>> -- Christian Huitema
>>
>> On 12/2/2020 7:43 AM, The IESG wrote:
>>> The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the
>>> following document: - 'Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee
>>> Eligibility'
>>> <draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-08.txt> as Experimental RFC
>>>
>>> The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
>>> comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
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>>>
>>> Abstract
>>>
>>>
>>> This document defines a process experiment under RFC 3933 that
>>> temporarily updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to
>>> participate in the IETF Nominating Committee. It therefore also
>>> updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community recall
>>> petition. The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in view
>>> of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a reduction in
>>> face-to-face meetings. The experiment is of fixed duration and will
>>> apply to one, or at most two, Nominating Committee cycles. This
>>> document temporarily varies the rules in RFC 8713.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The file can be obtained via
>>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand/
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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