Re: [Last-Call] Last Call: <draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-08.txt> (Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee Eligibility) to Experimental RFC

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Maybe I am old school, I was looking at the TXT. The HTML provides us with circles instead of ASCII squares, and that's certainly prettier. And I think I understand now why I was confused. I was expecting a Venn diagram showing the intersections of methods 1, 2, and 3. Instead, Figures 1 and 2 are showing the intersection of method 1, (methods 2+3), and the 2020 volunteers list. I assume the point is to demonstrate that the new methods are a superset of the old one, but it appears to not be a complete superset since 1 volunteer is excluded. That would be worth a bit of explanation.

Figures 3 and 4 show the intersection of method 2 and 3 with "The discarded path via IESG and IAB service", shown as path "I". It took me some time to understand what that meant. I assume that at some point, there was a proposal to automatically qualify prior members of the IESG or IAB within some time horizon. I also assume that that was discussed at length on the mailing list and so appear sobvious to a number of readers of the draft. And I also assume that the diagrams are there to argue that "see, we don't need this IESG/IAB criteria, all relevant people are qualified via path 2 or 3 anyhow." Let's say that your text is a little bit dry, as it took me some time to fill in the blanks.

-- Christian Huitema

On 12/11/2020 2:51 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
Christian,

I did try that, before Carsten taught us how to do the Venn diagrams in ASCII. But the results didn't seem at all readable to me. Don't we want to encourage people to look at the HTML format these days?

Regards
    Brian

On 12-Dec-20 09:02, Christian Huitema wrote:
Just a minor nit for an otherwise good looking draft: I have a hard time reading and understanding the Venn-diagrams-as-ascii-art in the "available data" appendix. Would it be possible to also provide the same data in tabular format?

-- Christian Huitema

On 12/2/2020 7:43 AM, The IESG wrote:
The IESG has received a request from an individual submitter to consider the
following document: - 'Additional Criteria for Nominating Committee
Eligibility'
   <draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand-08.txt> as Experimental RFC

The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits final
comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the
last-call@xxxxxxxx mailing lists by 2020-12-30. Exceptionally, comments may
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Abstract


    This document defines a process experiment under RFC 3933 that
    temporarily updates the criteria for qualifying volunteers to
    participate in the IETF Nominating Committee.  It therefore also
    updates the criteria for qualifying signatories to a community recall
    petition.  The purpose is to make the criteria more flexible in view
    of increasing remote participation in the IETF and a reduction in
    face-to-face meetings.  The experiment is of fixed duration and will
    apply to one, or at most two, Nominating Committee cycles.  This
    document temporarily varies the rules in RFC 8713.




The file can be obtained via
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-carpenter-eligibility-expand/



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