--On Wednesday, December 2, 2020 18:31 -0800 Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > So I'm hearing that the people actually running the FTP > service believe it to be a significant nuisance, and some > subset of the community think that it is obviously trivial. > Would it be too much to ask one of the FTP enthusiasts to > volunteer to maintain it, so that those who have tired of it > can move to other things? Unfortunately, at least as I understood it, the claim/belief was not [only] about its being a significant nuisance to maintain but that it was also consuming other resources that the powers that be didn't want to pay for any more. Unless the latter has changed --i.e., that the LLC would be happy to maintain the service if someone volunteered to maintain the software and tools -- having such volunteers would be of no help at all. > I'm sure we can migrate it to a URL that makes it clear it is > volunteer-driven. There is also the question or whether the IETF tells people this is an available option or whether it is a little secret among the relevant volunteer and a few hundred or her closest friends. If the former, the IETF and/or the IETF Administration LLC take on some responsibility for keeping it available or providing appropriate notice before it is shout down. So, overall, I don't see that suggestion as helpful... much as I would like to see this discussion end and stop consuming time and bandwidth. john