On 11/17/20, 10:46 AM, "ietf on behalf of Keith Moore" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx on behalf of moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I cannot say this often enough: Traffic volume is not an indicator of importance. [JL] Fair enough. But we also have a count of the number of hosts using the FTP interface and that is a quite small number. Most seem to be scripted, presumably to create a mirror of the RFCs. > Also, perhaps the IETF and IAB should be a bit less dogmatic, in light of experience. I keep seeing situations in which deprecation of old TLS versions is breaking systems for which there is no browser that supports the new TLS versions. IMO this does significant harm. [JL] The IETF regularly standardizes new protocols that leads to "creative disruption" globally. This brings countless positive benefits, such as pervasive encryption or real-time voice and video communications, but it surely has some downsides/impacts. It seems odd that we may be unable to do just a little bit of what we ask others to do in terms of disruption and proceed forward by dropping legacy unencrypted protocols with no apparent user demand & embracing more modern and secure communication protocols. BTW FTP was first specified 49 years ago in 1971. ;-)