Re: Call for Community Feedback: Retiring IETF FTP Service

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I do not object to turning off the FTP service.

In the analysis, I think there are two costs to consider and one benefit. The benefit of leaving it online, of course, is that some small group of users still find utility in FTP. Keith has outlined some of the reasons that users might prefer FTP, and I think it would be worthwhile replicating these properties in HTTP where possible (e.g., ensuring access to RFCs at a stable URL in a raw format, and possibly even configuring WebDAV on those paths in a read-only mode to support remote filesystem mounting).

The costs, as I mention, are twofold. There's a small operational cost to keeping the FTP service up, running, and configured. For example, if there were some reason to restructure the way files are stored on the server, it's one additional service that needs to be updated. This is probably pretty small from a monetary perspective.

The far greater cost is that every additional public-facing service on a server adds attack surface for malicious parties. And for less popular protocols like FTP, the chance of maintainers proactively finding and patching security vulnerabilities in their servers is vanishingly small. (If there's some vibrant community actively and continuously contributing to an FTP server implementation, that changes the calculus a fair bit, but that seems fantastically unlikely.)

So, on balance, it looks like retiring a lightly-used service is the right choice.

/a

On 11/16/2020 4:51 AM, Lars Eggert wrote:
On 2020-11-16, at 12:43, Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I support turning off the FTP service at ietf.org.
+1

Lars





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