I disagree that Pacific/CEST time difference is “difficult”; I have actually dealt with it in the past and found it survivable. Start with the typical IETF agenda in San Francisco, and move times 4.5 hours (half of nine) earlier. It means west coasters have to get up earlier and Europeans later, but it is not “difficult”. It’s just “inconvenient”. Sent using a machine that autocorrects in interesting ways... > On Sep 21, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Unfortunately, the time zone considerations make things really difficult