Thanks, Tom, for your feedback. The two ranges (0-15, 16-1048575) have the unfortunate property of being contiguous and thus appearing related, but they are completely unrelated: one is for solo labels, the other is for the second label of a composite special purpose label. This unintended confluence may be aggravated by referring to the ranges are "lower" and "upper". I would get rid of these terms as follows: NEW o Collectively, the two (unrelated) ranges (0-15 and 16-1048575) are known as Special Purpose Labels (SPL). o Special purpose labels from the range 0-15 are called Base Special Purpose Labels (bSPL). o Special purpose labels from the range 16-1048575 are called Extended Special Purpose Labels (eSPL). The reserved values 0-15 from the 'Extended Special-Purpose MPLS Label Values' registry do not need a name as they are not available for allocation. END (change of tense, as readers of the RFC will be seeing a fait accompli.) Kireeti. On 8/24/20, 03:02, "tom petch" <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: [External Email. Be cautious of content] On 23/08/2020 21:47, Adrian Farrel wrote: > Hi Tom, > > You're right (a condition that must be scarily familiar for you). > > Probably... > > OLD > o Collectively, the two ranges are known as Special Purpose Labels > (SPL). > > o The special purpose labels from the lower range will be called > Base Special Purpose Labels (bSPL). > > o The special purpose labels from the higher range will be called > Extended Special Purpose Labels (eSPL). > NEW > o Collectively, the two ranges (0-15, and 16-1048575) are known > as Special Purpose Labels (SPL). > > o The special purpose labels from the lower range (0-15) will be > called Base Special Purpose Labels (bSPL). > > o The special purpose labels from the higher range (16-1048575) > will be called Extended Special Purpose Labels (eSPL). The > reserved values 0-15 from the 'Extended Special-Purpose MPLS > Label Values' registry do not need a name as they can never be > used. > END Yes, clearer. Perhaps " The reserved values 0-15 from the 'Extended Special-Purpose MPLS Label Values' registry do not need a name as they are not available for allocation. " to tie in with the wording of IANA. They SHOULD NOT or MUST NOT be used but I can see some independent-minded organisation deciding that because noone else will ever use them then they can and they will so I think 'can never be used' is not quite right. They can never be allocated so we do not need an identifier for them, which is what I am wanting to express. I note that this is Informational and so RFC2119 language is best avoided. Tom Petch > Best, > Adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: tom petch <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: 19 August 2020 17:25 > To: last-call@xxxxxxxx > Cc: mpls@xxxxxxxx; draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology@xxxxxxxx; db3546@xxxxxxx; > mpls-chairs@xxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: Last Call: <draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-03.txt> (Special > Purpose Label terminology) to Informational RFC > > I find this confusing. > > It specifies two ranges 0-15 and 0-1048575 the latter being subdivided > into ranges 0-15 16-239 etc and then talks of the lower range and the > higher range; is the higher range 0-1048575 or 16-239 or 16-1048575 or ...? > Lesser and greater or first and second or smaller and larger .. I might > find unambiguous but reading this with an innocent eye, I find higher > ambiguous. > > And in Security, 'It does not effect the forwarding ...' Well, no, it > would likely not affect it either:-) > > Tom Petch > > > > On 12/08/2020 19:48, The IESG wrote: >> >> The IESG has received a request from the Multiprotocol Label Switching WG >> (mpls) to consider the following document: - 'Special Purpose Label >> terminology' >> <draft-ietf-mpls-spl-terminology-03.txt> as Informational RFC >> Juniper Business Use Only -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call