SM, Thank you for the interaction but I have to reply :-) Especially around "... most Area Directors do not participate in ietf@ discussions..."; my AD job takes 50+% of my time and I have a day job on the top of it of course... So, it is not really easy to read all emails on the top; I only read about 10% of them, especially the first ones in a thread. Sorry, I am just a human being and I wish that there were better ways to stay connected. And, I know that my AD peers do the same, trying to get a feeling of the community. BTW, I personally prefer open mike sessions to this list as it is easy to forget that human being(s) behind an email address while on a virtual plenary you 'see' the human beings. About "when Area Directors decide what they believe is right without being accountable for their decisions", I am afraid that I disagree at least when an AD takes a decision on his/her own (like a DISCUSS or a YES in a review). I tend to agree with you when the whole IESG takes a decision as it is a group decision. Just my 0.01 EUR and looking forward to your comments -éric -----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Tuesday, 18 August 2020 at 17:02 To: Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx>, "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Terminology discussion threads It is not possible to build a society when the leaders are happily cut off from the rest of the society, e.g. most Area Directors do not participate in ietf@ discussions, or when Area Directors decide what they believe is right without being accountable for their decisions.