Re: IESG Statement On Oppressive or Exclusionary Language

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Salz, Rich wrote:

Well, one can hope that if the document is adopted somewhere,

I hope not.

I can see no mistakes. Could you elaborate what "some" and "other" mistakes are?

I believe that it is still a mistake to use terms like
blacklist/whitelist and master/slave in technology documentation.

Distorting meaning of "blacklist" is even more impossible,
because in almost all, if not all, culture (including
that of Japan, where all native Japanese are yellow
and those of blacks), black is somewhat evil and white is
somewhat good, which is a natural result from a biological
fact that human beings are diurnal and nocturnal beasts
are the evil monsters.

US (and UK) culture is no exception, fundamental changes
on which are simply impossible.

So, before working on "blacklist", tell me how you can
rephrase the following in Thriller:

	It's close to midnight and something evel's
	lurking in the dark

And, tell me how you feel about the following:

	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandalf
	Midway through The Lord of the Rings, Gandalf becomes
	the head of the order of Wizards, and is renamed Gandalf
	the White. This change in status (and clothing)
	introduces another name for the wizard: the White Rider.

	After the war, Gandalf crowns Aragorn as King Elessar,
	and helps him find a sapling of the White Tree of Gondor.


	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morgoth
	The name Morgoth is Sindarin (one of Tolkien's invented
	languages) and means "Dark Enemy", "Black Foe", or "Black
	Foe of the World".

	Morgoth, the diminished being that styled itself Dark
	Lord of Arda.

If you think "black" and "white" are improperly used in the
Lord of the Rings, feel free to modify it or ban it from US
market along with all the current and *future* fantasies
and FRPGs doing so.

Only after that, we can start working on less important
fields of technical terms such as "blacklist".

					Masataka Ohta




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