On Fri, Jul 17, 2020 at 12:16 PM Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 2020-07-17, at 18:05, Warren Kumari <warren@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Is this a "someone (unreasonably) digs their heels in, and then is > > sufficiently unwilling to change that they suffer bad consequences”? > > I just wrote in a different thread, offline: > > > Its a very useful metaphor for someone who just doesn’t want to accept some part of reality and incurs unwanted consequences from actively, happily ignoring it. Ah! Now I get it! Cool, thanks.... > > I haven’t found an English-language equivalent… > > Sorry about turning this into a thread about German culture. *You* didn't, Spencer and I did :-) Idioms can be interesting and a useful way to communicate something with substantial subtleties. Perhaps we should have an ietf-offtopic@ list where we can have general chats to share interesting asides, etc..... although, the more I think about it, the more I suspect that that is what ietf@ is :-) W > You of course have Mark Twain, but I’m not going to cite him on-list on this issue. > > Grüße, Carsten > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf