> On 4 Jun 2020, at 07:42, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 04-Jun-20 08:11, John C Klensin wrote: > .... >> and/or inside Europe. The last I checked, it wasn't real easy >> for most international travelers to get into Australia or New >> Zealand either. > > I don't know for Australia, but anyone who'd like to visit me > or Jay at home will need to spend two weeks in a quarantine hotel > on arrival for the foreseeable future. And I can't foresee when that > will change, because I can't foresee when a vaccine will become > widely available. Neither can I foresee what the IETF will decide > to do strategically about the frequency etc. of future face to face > meetings. So I don't see what else the LLC could do other than what > they have done, short of wringing their hands and doing nothing. > > Brian Australia is similar if you can get an exemption from the Australian, permanent resident, or family requirement to be allowed to cross the border. Internal state border restrictions still exists for some states. Queensland, South Australia, North Territory, Western Australia and Tasmania all have border controls in place with internal quarantine restrictions for non-essential travellers that can cross these borders. NSW just had its first day without a case being detected. Victoria is yet to have such a day but have been single digit for quite a while (most of those are returning travellers). Mark -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka@xxxxxxx