On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 8:30 PM George Michaelson <ggm@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > My only concern is that the ESTA/CBP barriers to entry for IETF > participants who have travel issues to the USA remain. We are in > effect normalising US foreign policy discrimination against IETF > participation F2F It seems that putting a meeting back in the US is really not something the IETF should do... not until the current problems (virus, <internal strife>, external restrictions> are fixed... I don't think we(ietf) should be concerned about the potential loss on the SF site deposits/etc... > > I think you made an entirely rational decision financially, but I > think the underlying reasons we wound up going to Canada by preference > remain. > > -george > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 8:38 AM IETF Executive Director > <exec-director@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > The IETF Administration LLC is pleased to announce that: > > > > * IETF 112 will be held in Madrid at the Melia Castilla Hotel and Convention Center, 6-12 November 2021. This was the venue originally booked for IETF 108, which was moved online because of the global pandemic [1]. We have chosen to rebook this venue to support the 20 years of significant community effort to bring an IETF meeting to Spain. > > > > * IETF 117 will be held in San Francisco at the Hilton Union Square, 22-28 July 2023. This was the venue originally booked for IETF 102, which was moved because of concerns about US travel restrictions [2]. We have rebooked this venue as it was either that or pay a significant cancellation fee.. > > > > * IETF 120 will be held in Vancouver at the Hyatt Regency Vancouver, 20-26 July 2024. This was the venue originally booked for IETF 107, which was moved online because of the global pandemic [3]. We have chosen to rebook this venue to preserve the effort already put into contracting and preparing for this venue. > > > > In general, as the process of selecting a venue is expensive and time consuming, rebooking previously cancelled venues ensure that those costs are not written off and additional costs are not incurred in selecting new venues. > > > > Please feel free to contact me directly if you have any comments or questions. > > > > [1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/kzC7M48oKrAwdh9uyOvseeKFW3A/ > > [2] https://iaoc.ietf.org/documents/IETF102Changeofvenuedates.pdf > > [3] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/XenAlx4Nw6Jmg69QpXRUOwbzsXY/ > > > > -- > > Jay Daley > > IETF Executive Director > > exec-director@xxxxxxxx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > IETF-Announce mailing list > > IETF-Announce@xxxxxxxx > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ietf-announce >
