---- Original Message ----- From: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: 01/06/2020 10:39:11 Hi Brian, Stephen, At 09:36 PM 31-05-2020, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >On the substance (and partly in response to SM) I know that participants >have had to cover IETF meeting costs since 1992, and presumably longer, >so I don't find this shocking. But for the longer term, we do need to >think about how this interacts with the goal of "any interested person >can participate in the work, know what is being decided, and make his >or her voice heard" [RFC3935]. Thanks for the above. I would not describe the decision as "shocking" as it would be an exaggeration. In my opinion, there are difficult questions ahead. The text which you quoted is one example. <tp> I took part in the questionnaire and was surprised at the number of questions about fees but then took it for granted that a fee would be charged; I still feel that any interested party can take part, join the mailing lists, submit I-Ds and so on. Unless and until meetings have primacy over list decisions - and some WG Chair can act as if this was not the case:-( - then I see no change. Tom Petch --- New Outlook Express and Windows Live Mail replacement - get it here: https://www.oeclassic.com/ Regards, S. Moonesamy