> You've been given other suggestions, the most cogent and applicable of which is "engage a lawyer and take it up with the entity you believe has wronged you". In progress... > Please listen to what you've been told - that is the reality as we know it and asking again and again is unlikely to change that reality or the answers. Persisting is likely to get less and less sympathetic responses. Not everywhere is like that, as there are good people, there are bad people, maybe the percentage of bad people now became high, that doesn't mean that the right thing can be changed to be a wrong thing, still right is right, and wrong is wrong. Khaled Omar -----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Michael StJohns Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:42 PM To: ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Protecting Copyright. On 4/28/2020 3:21 PM, Khaled Omar wrote: >> Well, as John Klensin indicated, if the person knew of your work and didn't give you credit, it's certainly rude not to give you credit, but it is not required by the license. > Only rude, what about rights and justice. > >> That is something you can bring to a patent/intellectual-property lawyer. The IETF does not get in the middle of those sorts of disputes. > But the work is ietf related work, so how it does not get in the middle. > > Khaled Omar > IMO - you have no remedy that is available to you by posting to this list. The IETF is not a party to your issue, even less than an email provider would be a party if you happened to send an email that was misused by the receiver. You've been given other suggestions, the most cogent and applicable of which is "engage a lawyer and take it up with the entity you believe has wronged you". Perhaps it's time to end this thread and for you to take responsibility to deal with issues which you've raised, none of which the IETF is responsible for remediating? Please listen to what you've been told - that is the reality as we know it and asking again and again is unlikely to change that reality or the answers. Persisting is likely to get less and less sympathetic responses. Later, Mike