> > But Khaled, remember that copyright is about copying the text, not taking your idea. Unless they copied the text, they have not violated the copyright license. The case now is that they used my idea presented on the NEP ID and added it to their protocol, what to call this? Khaled Omar -----Original Message----- From: Scott O. Bradner <sob@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2020 9:06 PM To: Pete Resnick <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Protecting Copyright. > On Apr 28, 2020, at 3:03 PM, Pete Resnick <resnick@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On 28 Apr 2020, at 13:56, Scott O. Bradner wrote: > >>> On Apr 28, 2020, at 2:52 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> The benefit is for collaboration, and to have the author's work interoperate with the work of others who participate in the IETF. We do recognize that some contributors have patented ideas, and there are protections for those, but the writing are for the benefit of everyone contributing to the IETF. >>> >>> Discarding the original author ?!!! > > Well, as John Klensin indicated, if the person knew of your work and didn't give you credit, it's certainly rude not to give you credit, but it is not required by the license. > >>>> No, that is not permitted by the license. You are only allowed to make derivative works if you are contributing your work to the standards process (unless the author allows or a different license is given). >>> >>> And applying this to my case, I didn't allow anyone to use the contents without asking for my permission outside the ietf. >> >> in that case the issue is not an IETF one - it is between you and the >> person or company that copied your work > > Scott, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it is also a violation of the IETF Trust's license to copy the text without permission. outside of the IETF, that is correct but the IETF Trust is not in the business of enforcing such rules > > But Khaled, remember that copyright is about copying the text, not taking your idea. Unless they copied the text, they have not violated the copyright license. a very important point - that is often confused Scott > > pr > -- > Pete Resnick https://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world > are tenuous at best
