On Sun, 21 Sep 2003, Masataka Ohta wrote: > Dean; > > > > > The "set" is the set of *registered* names. The proper and only way to > > > > query this set is through whois. > > > > > > The only reason to have domain names registered is to use it > > > through DNS. > > > > The only reason we have DNS is to associate information such as IP > > addresses with names. > > I think you should clarify your terminology. > > You say "names". But, is it "whois names" or "domain names"? I mean "people useful" names. Whois is a protocol for accessing the registration of names. DNS is a a protocol for distributing Records associated with names. Registries of names are found all over civilization. At the Department of Motor Vehicles, at the Patent and Trademark Office, at the Department of State Division of Corporations, etc. > I think you know what D and N of DNS stand for. > > > Registration is far more important than the > > protocol. > > In this context, yes. > > I'm talking about not protocols, but names retrieved through the > protocol, domain names retrieved through DNS. So am I, above. > In this case, "someone" was verisign. Verisign was given that control, and there is no evidence that they have somehow abused that control. > > > > DNS has nothing to do with registration > > It mathematically means: > Registration !-> DNS > DNS !-> Registration No, that isn't what it means, mathematically. But perhaps this is what it means to you. If so, this is the source of our difficulties. > > I think you missed this: > > > > Registration -> DNS > > DNS !-> Registration > > Study mathematics. I have. I think you need to go back and check out your logical connectives. The following is a perfectly valid construction: Registration -> DNS DNS !-> Registration It represents the relationship between domain names services, and registration services. --Dean