> From: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu> > ... > the reason I point out the flaws with NAT is not that I think we can get > rid of them in v4. it's because some people are still of the belief that > NATs are mostly harmless and that we should not only permit them > into v6, but extend our architecture to embrace them. that's simply > insane. The current combatants seemed to fail to notice a long time ago when those who started this thread by claiming NAT boxes are clearly good and desirable things were convinced, or more likely, went elsewhere to peddle their views. Vernon Schryver vjs@rhyolite.com