Iljitsch van Beijnum writes: > On woensdag, jun 18, 2003, at 21:17 Europe/Amsterdam, Bob Braden wrote: > > > Since 1980 we have believed that universal connectivity was one of the > > great achievements of the Internet design. Today, one must > > unfortunately question whether universal connectivity can be sustained > > (or is even the right goal) in a networking environment without > > universal trust. > > I think we can safely say that 99.99% of all systems that run IP don't > want to talk to 99.99% of all systems that run IP. For most people, > with a network this large, universal connectivity isn't a goal but a > threat. But this shouldn't be confused with universal addressability > being undesirable, because this only gets more important as the size of > the network increases. Voice challenges this assumption to a very large degree. In fact, I not only want access to 99.99% of the other nodes on the net willing to speak RTP, but I most certainly don't want to be forced to go through some forced eavesdrop-tapping, terrorist-witchhunting intermediary that is subject to the whims of certain fanatics from Missouri and Utah who are convinced that peetopee is the spawn of Satan. Mike