I was one of the ga-full subscribers. I thought it was a great mistake not to archive it -- further institutionalizing the idea that only approved persons could speak, and creating a santized public record. The calculus was different for ICANN, as it's quasi-governmental in a way the IETF is not, so what was necessary there might not be necessary here. I sould also note that ICANN killed the ga-full list with no discussion and essentially no notice. The ga-full list, as used by ICANN, certainly served to silence people, but not quite exactly in the manner described below. On Tue, 17 Jun 2003, Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote: > > > --On mandag, juni 16, 2003 12:45:34 -0600 Vernon Schryver > <vjs@calcite.rhyolite.com> wrote: > > > The suggestion of having two lists, one filtered and a second named > > whatever-noise, both with open archives, sounds fine to me, but wouldn't > > help the ASRG case. I think that the ASRG case would be instantly > > resolved if the moderator would publish all of the rejected messages > > and related corresponce without any additional commentary...not that > > I think there's any case there, but passers-by might not have seen the > > first several weeks of traffic in the ASRG mailing list not to mention > > those "courtesy" copies I mentioned. > > the ICANN DNSO GA list operated with "ga" and "ga-full" lists ("full" being > all spam, crosspostings and postings from moderated posters in addition to > the normal list traffic). > > the ga-full list was, I believe, not archived. > > it served to silence the complaints that it wouldn't be possible to see if > moderation was fair or not, which richly repaid the work of setting it up - > I think it had approximately 5 memebers. > > Harald > > > -- Please visit http://www.icannwatch.org A. Michael Froomkin | Professor of Law | froomkin@law.tm U. Miami School of Law, P.O. Box 248087, Coral Gables, FL 33124 USA +1 (305) 284-4285 | +1 (305) 284-6506 (fax) | http://www.law.tm -->It's hot here.<--