On Sat, 7 Jun 2003, at 18:51 [=GMT-0400], vinton g. cerf wrote: [When I wrote: Send the problem to ICANN.] > this is NOT an ICANN problem - ICANN has no jurisdiction at the > email level. > > vint cerf > chairman, ICANN I was joking of course. A bad joke. Sorry. "ICANN has no jurisdiction at the email level". Indeed. But who has? So here is a serious idea, not involving the UN, but some effective social engineering: Send the problem to Microsoft. Why? Because a solution against spam I see is a combination of working reverse DNS (also for dial in connections through DHCP and dynamic DNS) and turning OutLook into a combined MUA/MTA with blacklist (of IP numbers) and whitelist (of valid hostnames on the user level) features. I call this new OutLook: OutPeer, since (most) mail will go peer-to-peer in my scheme. I have more to say about this. And since it is not about standards (no new ones required, I think), and also likely stupid, I will not do it here. I have put it up at http://www.outpeer.com/ I appreciate comments to marc@schneiders.org. -- [03] I thank you for your time and interest. http://logoff.org/