Re: This IETF discussion list

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This message seems to be a violation of the IETF Code of Conduct (RFC
3184) sections 2.1 and 2.2:

   1. IETF participants extend respect and courtesy to their colleagues
      at all times.

      IETF participants come from diverse origins and backgrounds and
      are equipped with multiple capabilities and ideals.  Regardless of
      these individual differences, participants treat their colleagues
      with respect as persons--especially when it is difficult to agree
      with them.  Seeing from another's point of view is often
      revealing, even when it fails to be compelling.

   2. IETF participants develop and test ideas impartially, without
      finding fault with the colleague proposing the idea.

      We dispute ideas by using reasoned argument, rather than through
      intimidation or ad hominem attack.  Or, said in a somewhat more
      IETF-like way:

            "Reduce the heat and increase the light"

It is clearly not unreasonable to challenge someones claims, nor
respectfully challenge their anecdotal experiences, but intimidation and
ad hominem personal attacks are clearly inappropriate.

I ask the IETF Chair to take the appropriate action.



Dean Anderson
President, Av8 Internet, Inc

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Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 02:09:25 +0200
From: "Tomson Eric (Yahoo.fr)" <Tomson_Eric@Yahoo.fr>
To: 'Eric A. Hall' <ehall@ehsco.com>, 'John Stracke'
<jstracke@centive.com>
Cc: ietf@ietf.org
Subject: RE: spam

Guys,

Dean Anderson obviously supports and defends SPAM.
No further conversation with him could lead to anything constructive.
Stop feeding the Troll, now.

E.T.

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On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Tomson Eric (Yahoo.fr) wrote:


> By example, the more messages from A*** A*** I read, the more I think he is
> making statements of his own, without verification, without proof, without
> experience...
>
> Maybe this is due to a low technical knowledge? Or to a lack of valuable,
> proven information? (No offense. Just wondering...)
>
> Also remember J*** F*** and all his IPv8, IPv16,... stuff! Do such people
> just troll "for the pleasure", or are they convinced of what they state?
>
> I find it amusing that we discuss about SPAM, while we are victims of a kind
> of spamming! We are not even able to properly filter this list, and we think
> about preventing SPAM worlwide!
>
> Back to my first question. I don't say I know the answer. I don't say I have
> a solution. I'm just thinking, and sharing my thoughts with you all.
>
> Anyway, it must be difficult to be this list's moderator! :-/
>
>
>
>





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