This message seems to be a violation of the IETF Code of Conduct (RFC 3184) sections 2.1 and 2.2: 1. IETF participants extend respect and courtesy to their colleagues at all times. IETF participants come from diverse origins and backgrounds and are equipped with multiple capabilities and ideals. Regardless of these individual differences, participants treat their colleagues with respect as persons--especially when it is difficult to agree with them. Seeing from another's point of view is often revealing, even when it fails to be compelling. 2. IETF participants develop and test ideas impartially, without finding fault with the colleague proposing the idea. We dispute ideas by using reasoned argument, rather than through intimidation or ad hominem attack. Or, said in a somewhat more IETF-like way: "Reduce the heat and increase the light" It is clearly not unreasonable to challenge someones claims, nor respectfully challenge their anecdotal experiences, but intimidation and ad hominem personal attacks are clearly inappropriate. I ask the IETF Chair to take the appropriate action. Dean Anderson President, Av8 Internet, Inc ================== Date: Fri, 30 May 2003 02:09:25 +0200 From: "Tomson Eric (Yahoo.fr)" <Tomson_Eric@Yahoo.fr> To: 'Eric A. Hall' <ehall@ehsco.com>, 'John Stracke' <jstracke@centive.com> Cc: ietf@ietf.org Subject: RE: spam Guys, Dean Anderson obviously supports and defends SPAM. No further conversation with him could lead to anything constructive. Stop feeding the Troll, now. E.T. ==================== On Sun, 1 Jun 2003, Tomson Eric (Yahoo.fr) wrote: > By example, the more messages from A*** A*** I read, the more I think he is > making statements of his own, without verification, without proof, without > experience... > > Maybe this is due to a low technical knowledge? Or to a lack of valuable, > proven information? (No offense. Just wondering...) > > Also remember J*** F*** and all his IPv8, IPv16,... stuff! Do such people > just troll "for the pleasure", or are they convinced of what they state? > > I find it amusing that we discuss about SPAM, while we are victims of a kind > of spamming! We are not even able to properly filter this list, and we think > about preventing SPAM worlwide! > > Back to my first question. I don't say I know the answer. I don't say I have > a solution. I'm just thinking, and sharing my thoughts with you all. > > Anyway, it must be difficult to be this list's moderator! :-/ > > > >