Spencer, SD> Spencer, who feels for the ASRG if this quality of discussion SD> DOES move to that mailing list, but maybe "They Were SD> Expendable"... Perhaps you have heard the story of an employee who moved to a different company, thereby increasing the average quality in both the old and new companies? d/ -- Dave Crocker <mailto:dcrocker@brandenburg.com> Brandenburg InternetWorking <http://www.brandenburg.com> Sunnyvale, CA USA <tel:+1.408.246.8253>, <fax:+1.866.358.5301>