> From: james woodyatt <jhw@wetware.com> > I can assure you that the vast majority of those customers using the u > NAT in either of these products-- and I get a lot of customer feedback > .. -- are doing so for reasons that are far less technical than you > suggest. > They are *not* doing it because they "want identifiers for their > machines that are independent of their location in the connectivity > topology." They are doing it because they want to share their Internet > access with multiple computers. Your take is not matched by what other people are saying, which is what I was going on (but see below). E.g. one person recently replied to a private message of mine (he can speak for himself, if he wants), but the substance of what he said was that he think that outside the US, almost everyone uses a NAT (not just homeowners who want to hook up N computers when their always-on-ISP only gave them one address), and he implied that addressing was a big issue (the example he gave was of a university that didn't want to renumber again, after switching ISP's once). However, as the old aphorism goes, "the plural of anecdote is not data" - and the situation may also have the usual statistics ("lies, damn lies, <etc>) issues. It may well be, for example, that the majority of NAT *boxes* sold go into house applications where the intent is to share one address, but that a relatively few very large NAT boxes (e.g. at companies) account for a larger number of *users*. I'd love to hear of some real data to sort this all out. > Have any of you looked at the actual marketing copy that sells real > people on why they might want to pay real money for a NAT box? It might > be instructive. You really expect the marketing department to have clue? :-) Noel