Re: Architectural Considerations section in specs

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Thus spake "Keith Moore" <moore@cs.utk.edu>
> Tony, this discussion is about ambiguous addresses.  Your persistent
> attempt to conflate it with packet filtering and/or routing policy isn't
> shedding any light on the argument.  And you're smart enough to know
> the difference.

And you're conflating ambiguous addressing with scoping.

> You cannot expect apps to not leak addresses outside of their scope
> because apps do need to pass addresses around and they have no
> way of being aware of their scope boundaries.  The way to solve this
> problem is to make addresses unique.

Give everyone global addresses and the scoping problem remains unchanged.
Even "global" addresses are scoped by administrative or security policies.

Having a prefix set aside for private addresses, whether SL or RFC1918, is
convenient for humans, that's all.  It may make scoping easier or more
common, but it's not the cause.

> > There is no magic here, and defining a prefix didn't change the
> > architecture.
>
> defining a prefix didn't change the architecture - asserting that the
> same prefix could be reused in multiple locations did change the
> architecture.

Perhaps.  There is no functional difference unless multiple instances of the
same address are actually _reachable_ by a third party; the mere existence
of duplicates does not change the architecture.

S

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