Charlie, > Charles E. Perkins wrote: > What if the market were shaped by: > - using questionable business practices to > cripple/kill competitors? > - predatory/stupid legislation? (e.g., efforts to > outlaw "French" technology) > - selective failure to enforce existing legislation? > - powerful and misleading advertising? There certainly is some of it, but it's not everything either. What I'm concerned about are these guys and gals that say "Cisco routers are junk. These guys at Cisco don't know jack about routing, it's fortunate they bought Linksys so they will get clued engineers from the acquisition, and my router that I put together with a recycled PC and two pieces of duct tape is really way superior to Cisco products". Yeah, right. If Cisco became market leader, it is because of their ability to design and manufacture products that actually work in enterprises and not because of questionable business practices. The same people torpedo group efforts to work on difficult issues because it has to be their way (that's better than the Cisco way or for the same topic any compromise that a WG could come up with) or no way at all. [note: I do not work for Cisco] > Does it mean that we should require new sections in > every Internet Draft explaining how the protocol can > succeed by suggesting some clever strategies for > misleading advertising and so on, or how to kill > competitive protocols? I know you didn't want to > suggest this. > Maybe you didn't really mean what you said. It > amounts to "might makes right". Not at all. It amount to "no solution because we found more comfortable to put issues under the rug is worse than an imperfect solution". If we don't provide a site-local solution, there will be a Microsoft solution, a Sun solution, a Cisco solution, a Juniper solution, etc. Eventually one or more of these will become a de-facto standard, and then people will be whining "how dare these big mighty companies produce solutions without talking to us; they abuse their power to impose their solution". Michel.