> This is so typical of the modern IETF -- 102 people were persuaded > by handwaving arguments that "something bad might happen" if a new > and useful technique were deployed, and they are being allowed to > overwhelm the 20 who were willing to dig in and find and solve any > real problems. uh, no. 102 people finally understood just how comprehensively broken SLs are, and managed to finally overwhelm the 20 or so who were still in compete denial about it. Keith