> This is so typical of the modern IETF -- 102 people were persuaded > by handwaving arguments that "something bad might happen" if a new > and useful technique were deployed, and they are being allowed to > overwhelm the 20 who were willing to dig in and find and solve any > real problems. Well Matt, this may happen in various groups, but the IPv6 WG has been actively debating this issue since Atlanta. I object to the characterization of the discussion as an exchange of handwaves. > How many of your 22 speakers had implementation and deployment > experience to report? >From looking at the names, I would say at least 18. I suggest that this discussion resumes on the IPv6 mail list after the minutes are published. -- Christian Huitema