> Since they would be taught by IETF engineers, probably for > not all that much money, it seems a bit onerous to ask the > benefactors to do more travel so that they carry out a difficult > task mostly for the benefit of the IETF. > ... charlie, you're talking to someone who has spent a considerable amount of their time over the last 15 years doing pro bono technology transfer. so my lack of sympathy for your argument may not be very representative. randy