> (i) I don't like these sorts of surprises that leave little time > to think about an important issue. none of us do. which is why all the folk who are involved in the sub-ip area have been discussing this for a while, culminating in a general discussion in the sub-ip area meeting in atlanta. what you, as someone not involved in or tracking sub-ip, have seen is kind of an ietf-wide last call on the issue, as some of use felt that open input from the entire ietf would be useful when dealing with issues of something as large as an area. dunno about the other ads and sub-ip folk, but i have found the ietf-wide input on the sub-ip area issue useful. randy