> so my personal method is to let the user act on their own behalf > and to respond to explicit written requests. that way, the worst > error i can make is cut and paste, and even that has gotten me in > trouble on occasion. no, the worst error you can make is to refuse to forward valuable input to working groups. and furthermore you've known about this problem for years and stubbornly insisted that you had a right to impose your arbitrary constraints on working group operation, in violation of established rules and policies. Keith