> Pre-approved lists continues to allow IETF'ers to post to IETF > lists without having to be subscribed or suffer through the > error-prone, distribution delay inducing, and list admin's time > consuming processes some list admins have forced upon us. like what i call "do-gooder software", when you guess correctly, no one ever says thanks. but guess wrongly once, and you get screamed at forever. so my personal method is to let the user act on their own behalf and to respond to explicit written requests. that way, the worst error i can make is cut and paste, and even that has gotten me in trouble on occasion. but ymmv, and that's what makes the world go 'round. randy