> I think among other things it is time that we started treating > stealing other people's open relays for purposes of forwarding > commercial email as what it probably is -- a felony. That won't help, > though, so long as no one attempts to prosecute it. nor will it help if open relays are not a significant part of the problem. most of the spam I see these days (at least, the spam that I take the trouble to analyze) doesn't seem to be going through open relays. Keith