Keith and all, I don't think that I have seen any spam on this or the IETF@ietf.org Mailing lists in quite a long time. Ad I can only recall two incidences where I have seen any spam on either list. So I guess I am wondering why there seems to be a perceived problem with spam on these Mailing lists??? Keith Moore wrote: > > And if I'm going to read a list, I'd > > much rather it be well run than just easy to post to. I define well > > run as _both_ spam-free and lacking in moderation delays. > > I define "well run" as having a high signal-to-noise ratio, > low moderation delay, a well-defined moderation policy that > evaluates messages visibly and impartially without considering > who authored them, and a low barrier to successful posting > of relevant content - even by non-subscribers. > > Expecting contributors to explicitly add their addresses to > a whitelist using obscure knowledge that is specific to > a particular list or software or moderator, and completely > unrelated to the knowledge required to contribute to the list, > imposes an unacceptably high barrier. > > But if we somehow made this process uniform from one list to > another, spammers would just add themselves to the whitelist. > > Keith > > p.s. though it is intriguing to consider - what if the instructions > for commenting on a draft were embedded somewhere within that > draft, so people would actually have to read it before commenting? Regards, -- Jeffrey A. Williams Spokesman for INEGroup - (Over 121k members/stakeholdes strong!) CEO/DIR. Internet Network Eng/SR. Java/CORBA Development Eng. Information Network Eng. Group. INEG. INC. E-Mail jwkckid1@ix.netcom.com Contact Number: 972-244-3801 or 214-244-4827 Address: 5 East Kirkwood Blvd. Grapevine Texas 75208