The newer one will because its replacing Hal with POLKIT-1 , which requires Consolekit. I do have a patch to drop Pam . But Consolekit is still there and still a bug invested guaranteed breakage (working and compiling ). Plus this all styarted for me with KDE4 either we are forced to use polkit/consolekit/patch and still have a broken system or go all the way with Pam for a full cancer stick. Also please there is more than enought proof that these do cause a great anount of problems . even tonight I was still finding people having the same problems and they have pam . It been like that for years . It is an authentication many of use done't want to use and would apreciate it bein all put back in. It should never have been dropped in the first place. I hate udev as it is and never liked hal either and this makes it even more proof of what i said in the irc channels that it would get worse. > I loved linux but this has put it in the black book now. Totally disappointed how it could go from something so good respecting all linux platforms. But now only wanting to work with the selected favorites. > Fact is too the time was taken to cut out what worked and should still work. Instead of working the other in to have both options and not one forcing the other to use it . Giving it only partial control . whoops never hit reply to all, never used it before or email much :) ---------------------------------------- > From: kay.sievers@xxxxxxxx > Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:05:37 +0200 > Subject: Re: Polkit/Consolekit cancer stick? > To: greg@xxxxxxxxx > CC: oneforall59@xxxxxxxxxxx; linux-hotplug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 20:54, Greg KH wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 06:40:00PM +0000, oneforall immortal wrote: >>> >>> ? I found out a while ago that udev will be using polkit. >>> Which >>> this was another authentication type you could use by CHIOCE, which was >>> policykit/Consolekit and Pam. I do know there is a patch since I have >>> it to work around Pam. But it is the fact we are still forced with the >>> other parts of the cancer stick. Even if we use shadow or there was >>> another style of authentication its useless. Because the dominating one >>> is still in control and not the one we would like to still use. I >>> really feel disappointed in Linux now after 10+ years . Its no longer >>> about and working with choices. Its following the same path as >>> Microsoft . Consolekit/Polkit is the IE/Directx of linux now and that's >>> really sad. I dunno what I'm going to do now But I'm ready to give up >>> on Linux now. I have been holding back on putting out an article . But >>> It looks like I will now. I'm sure Microsoft should be happy to hear it >>> too. Its all about the favoritism and not caring about the smaller % >>> that doesn't want it. There is enough proof on Google the bugs and >>> constant guaranteed breakage. But I had nothing against people using it >>> But now my system will be infested with this same crap and I don't want >>> it . >>> Anyway as the rest I've probably wasted my time . I really wish >>> there was a patch to drop Consolekit too,? to let my chioce of >>> authentication have full control. But like I said its simple to see how >>> this one type of authentication has made Linux not care about choice >>> any more. the Brute force has won :( >> >> You have the choice to use a distro that does not use these tools if you >> do not like it, and you have the choice to create a distro that does not >> use them if you can't find one. >> >> And most importantly, no one is forcing you to use Linux :) > > And udev does not use ConsoleKit or PolicyKit. :) > > Kay _________________________________________________________________ IM on the go with Messenger on your phone http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9712960-- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-hotplug" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html