Hey; On 11 June 2015 at 14:19, Ignacio Casal Quinteiro <nacho.resa@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > For the record following Emmanuele mail, > you can find an example on how to create an installer > for your application using msys2 here: > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gedit/tree/win32 We really need to get a GTK-based installer, so you guys can stop using the Competition. ;-) Ciao, Emmanuele. > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> Hi; >> >> On 11 June 2015 at 13:44, anatoly techtonik <techtonik@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> > On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 9:22 PM, Emmanuele Bassi <ebassi@xxxxxxxxx> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> The current stance of everyone involved in the Windows backend for >> >> GLib and GTK+ is to stop advertising binary builds for Windows — as we >> >> don't do that for any other platform, and nobody sticks around long >> >> enough to keep doing that or to set up a continuous integration build >> >> for GTK. >> > >> > Stop advertising == stop supporting? >> >> If I wanted to say "stop supporting", I would have said that. Not that >> we *ever* "supported" binary builds, on any platform. If you want >> commercial support, you should contract somebody. >> >> Currently, we advertise ad hoc Windows builds on gtk.org; those are >> out of date, and lack many of the bug fixes that went into GTK. This >> situation is confusing for application developers, and makes the >> project look bad. It also reflect badly on the great work that >> developers have been doing in order to make GTK work well on Windows. >> >> On top of that, we don't offer binary builds for any other platform, >> and instead rely on distributors — like Homebrew on Mac; the *BSD >> ports; or the various Linux distributions — to provide binary builds >> for them. Windows is an anomaly, mostly because there weren't >> good/usable software distributions in the past. This has now changed, >> and it's a good thing to ensure that developers on Windows get >> reliable, up to date software. >> >> >> Developers using the G* core platform libraries on Windows are >> >> strongly encouraged to use the MSYS2 distribution: >> >> >> >> https://msys2.github.io/ >> > >> > Like Git? Ship 200Mb of "additional value" on top? Just for comparison >> > Mercurial installation is 37Mb compared with 267Mb of Git. And that for >> > every GTK application? >> >> MSYS2 is for developers, not for end users. >> >> You're supposed to set up the development enviroment on *your* >> development machine(s); once you have built your application, you can >> take your binary artefacts, including the DLLs you depend on, put them >> into an installer, and let your users download the installer — which >> is exactly what you should have done in the past, even with pre-built >> DLLs. The intended change is for application developers to get >> pre-built, up to date binaries using MSYS2, instead of downloading zip >> files from gtk.org that we cannot reliably keep up to date. >> >> Telling your users to download your application; download DLLs from >> gtk.org; shove them into some directory; and, finally, hope for the >> best, was never a good software distribution mechanism. >> >> >> This will provide you with pre-built packages that are known to work >> >> and maintained. It also allows you to build your own packages on top >> >> of it, and create an installer from the result. >> > >> > Can GTK be cross-compiled for Windows? >> >> Yes, it can, and it routinely is. >> >> >> What the GTK team would love, on the other hand, is somebody putting >> >> the effort in setting up and maintaining a continuous integration >> >> service — similar to https://build.gnome.org — for Windows builds. >> >> This way we would be able to catch build regressions after every >> >> commit, without relying on the application developers to file bugs. >> > >> > http://www.appveyor.com/ if using closed source service is okay. >> >> No, it's really not — especially if it has to run on the gnome.org >> infrastructure. >> >> Ciao, >> Emmanuele. >> >> -- >> https://www.bassi.io >> [@] ebassi [@gmail.com] >> _______________________________________________ >> gtk-devel-list mailing list >> gtk-devel-list@xxxxxxxxx >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-devel-list > > > > > -- > Ignacio Casal Quinteiro -- https://www.bassi.io [@] ebassi [@gmail.com] _______________________________________________ gtk-list mailing list gtk-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gtk-list
