Re: No ringing tone

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I am testing behind NAT. GK is on public IP and endpoint is behind NAT.
dont think so its NAT problem as i can talk easily.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Stewart Nelson" <sn@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2004 03:37 PM
Subject: Re:  No ringing tone


> Hi all,
> 
> KO> The ringing tone is always produced from some gateway
> KO> (VoIP or not) between the two endpoints.
> 
> AS> That is incorrect. It is perfectly legal to leave the 
> AS> ringing tone up to the calling endpoint, just send an 
> AS> ALERTING message and you're done.
> 
> Andreas is technically correct, but if logical channels have
> been opened, many endpoints will assume that there is progress
> audio (and not play local ringing tone), so the destination
> gateway ought to provide audio in that case.
> 
> KO> Typically this ringing sound should be 
> KO> produced as close as possible to the originating side.
> 
> Maybe in a perfect world, but with today's VoIP, no!
> All too often, a carrier will send Alerting when there
> is actually useful audio, e.g. "the number you are calling
> has been changed...".  Even if the called phone is really
> ringing, there are problems.  For example, I am in US and
> call France.  My provider's usual route is full, so he
> hands the call off to a carrier in the UK.  That turkey,
> on receiving Alerting, plays a local ringing tone.  I
> hear the UK ring, conclude that I must have dialed wrong
> or the call was misrouted, and hang up.  Not only is it
> comforting to hear ringing tone from the right country,
> but when it is choppy (or absent), you can retry without
> having to wait for an answer.
> 
> DS> I also Have similar problem with Cisco ATA 186. When the
> DS> ATA is on real IP everything works fine but when on
> DS> private IP i hear no ringing  tone but i can hear and talk.
> 
> IMO, your problem is different from Rafat's.  Just forward UDP
> ports 10000-10007 on your NAT to the ATA (or put the ATA in DMZ)
> and you should be fine.
> 
> RS> so after seeing my logs the final decision of yrs is that
> RS> no problem at dialer or GK endpoint.the only thing is to
> RS> play a local file in case if dialer does not receive ring.
> RS> dialer is fast start enabled.
> 
> Well, the log seems to show that the 5300 is not accepting
> the fast start (no OLC messages in the Call Proceeding)
> and it is not sending any audio.  So you either must get the
> 5300 to send some, as Kyriakos suggested, or get your
> EP to play ringing locally.  Maybe, if you turn off fast
> start, it will do that.  To confirm that the problem is
> as we suspect, make sure that it still happens when dialer is
> on a public IP (and without GK, if possible).
> 
> --Stewart
> 
> 
> 
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