RE: Question about NATed endpoints

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Thanks Stewart and Michal.

I have one more question.

If there is a gateway with a private IP being NATed behind a firewall
that is H.323 aware. After the GW registers with the GK and a caller
tries to reach the GW with the private IP how does the set up message
make it to the private IP address through the firewall ?
If I get this I think it will all make sense.

Thanks again.



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:openh323gk-users-admin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
> Behalf Of Stewart Nelson
> Sent: Wednesday, July 07, 2004 12:32 AM
> To: openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re:  Question about NATed endpoints
> 
> 
> Hi Per,
> 
> This is a tough problem.  There are indeed situations when 
> you are stuck behind a NAT over which you have no 
> administrative control, e.g. in a hotel, or at a vendor or 
> customer site.
> 
> Although there is generally no signaling problem on outgoing 
> calls, especially if you use fast start and/or H.245 
> tunneling, a NAT that is unaware of H.323 has a potential 
> problem with the incoming audio:
> 
> 1) The NAT doesn't know what host to send it to, until it
>    sees some outgoing audio from that host.
> 2) Most calling phones / gateways don't send audio until
>    CONNECT is received.
> 3) If the destination is the PSTN via a commercial ITSP,
>    you won't get CONNECT until the call is answered.
> 
> This means that you will not be able to hear announcements
> such as "the number has been changed ..." or "the party you
> are calling is out of range".  Depending on the carrier, you 
> may not hear audible ringing or busy signals, either.
> 
> There is usually no trouble if the destination is an IP
> phone, an ATA, or a gateway with analog POTS lines.
> 
> It is often necessary to set ProxyForNAT for reliable
> operation without DMZ.  Unfortunately, that generally
> carries a penalty in voice quality and/or delay.
> 
> --Stewart
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Per Kreipke" <per@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <openh323gk-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:17 PM
> Subject: RE:  Question about NATed endpoints
> 
> 
> > Stewart,
> > 
> > Thanks, very informative.
> > 
> > I'm curious, if only making outbound calls, is the 
> situation the same? 
> > E.g. is it necessary to put the gateway in the DMZ/open ports?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Per
> 
> 
> 
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