Oh well... It would probably be a lesser PITA if the developer would be more helpfull in here. No offense, but you will find less info in this mailinglist than any other. Most times you will ask a question and you can forget about getting an answer. And even the few answers you get are from people trying to help with their minimal knowledge which will most times end in not helping the person at all. Now don't get me wrong, this help is welcome. I just mean that if the devs would get more involved in the helping process, the participants would gather more knowledge and at one point they could do a real competent help by themselves. Untill then is just help from people who managed to solve some of the problems which they encountered... Also it would have been nice if the developers would include in the project the pwlib and openh323 sources (like many projects do with their dependencies) which they used when developing, so we would get less compatibility probs. Also writing in the docs such info as "remove your previous libs before compiling the new ones" and other answers to questions which appeared in this mailinglist would have been better. I know it can also be a PITA to keep your docs updated and cover all, and most projects haven't got a complete doc and faq, but at least they are helping in the mailinglist... No offense ment, but this mailinglist reminds me of the times when linux was just for the "guru's" and if you were a mere "mortal" trying to learn it, you would be ignored... I have now 2 years of constantly working with linux and compiling for it behind me, and I appreciate the developers, but providing a product with no support whatsoever beside a cryptic manual... Even the manual is based on the fact that you have knowledge of h323 protocol and it's dependencies/specifics... Sorry, but most people trying to use it have no clue of h323 beside the fact that they need a proxy for it so they can use NM from behind a firewall... I think it is ok to suppose linux knowledge due to the detination platform, but most settings in there make little point and only a couple of them are detailed enough so you can figure what to put in there. I managed to configure mine right, but it took me a few good days to figure it out. I thank the devs for the appliaction and aknowledge it is for free and developed in their free time, but a bit of more help in the mailinglist wouldn't hurt anyone. Sorry if I offended anyone by stating my opinion. For now I got most of my answers related to gnugk from the gnomemeeting mailinglist where the developers and other users are very prompt in giving help and answering even dumb questions. Best regards, Adrian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Williams" <marcw@onlymooo.com> To: "gk list" <openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 11:14 PM Subject: Re: [Openh323gk-users] Re: Re: Can't start the netmeeting > Wow, what a PITA! That people have to jump through so many hoops just > to get a working executable seems so wasteful. I think I'll hold on to > my (somewhat) older pwlib for awhile. At least I know it works. > > I'm not sure exactly what you mean by NM's "non-standard" port usage > though. If you're referring to the random UDP ports that it requires, I > thought that was part of the h.323 standard, no? And besides, > specifying the rtp ports in the gnugk.ini seems to obviate that > requirement. Good luck with your testing! > > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 15:50, Adrian Golumbovici wrote: > > I guess he means the precompiled one and that it crashed with a core dump. > > Have Mandrake Linux 9.1 myself and that is exactly what happens. I managed > > to compile 2.0.4, but it took a bit of workarounds to do it. You have to > > uninstall the pwlib and openh323 which come with the distro (use > > rpm -e --nodeps or it will complain that 2 other things are depending on > > them), download the ones from www.openh323.org and compile them as > > instructed on that site. Don't omit any step or your compilation will fail. > > I overlooked something the first time and it took me a while to find out > > that I have to remove the distro libraries installed. Use gmake for it and > > not the make (fewer warnings). After that you can compile the gnugk as > > instructed on the site. Use "NO_LDAP=1 NO_MYSQL=1 make both" (if you want to > > use one of the 2, ommit the NO_xxxx thing. You must give the NO_xxxxx > > option(s) on same line with "make both" or it will still compile trying to > > use ldap and mysql (maybe I should have used the export thing...) and > > somehow with the ldap and ldap-dev from ML 9.1 it will not work (probably > > only if you also compile ldap yourself with newest version). You will get > > one error with RasTbl.cxx on line 516, but you have to edit the line and add > > another parameter to the function call ",-1" and it will work. Now I am just > > curious to test it. For me the 2.0.3 worked (precompiled binary), but got > > exactly same problem as you. I am in a LAN behind the firewall (where gnugk > > is running) and the other person was on direct internet connection. Both > > NetMeeting 3.01 (she Windows98 and I win2k) and both registered to the > > GateKeeper. I had just the standard NetMeeting ports open on firewall (maybe > > that was the cause of the prob). It worked only if she connected to me. If I > > tried to connect to her I got that the client cannot accept connections at > > this time though she accepted my call. On the other hand if it were for the > > non-standard Ports which NetMeeting use, it should have been the other way > > around (so she wouldn't be able to connect to me and I would be able to > > connect to her), but that wasn't the case. I am waiting now to test it and > > see if it works with the fresh compiled 2.0.4. Unfortunatelly I have no one > > to test with till Wednesday... > > > > Best regards, > > Adrian > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Marc Williams" <marcw@onlymooo.com> > > To: "gk list" <openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net> > > Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 10:27 PM > > Subject: Re: [Openh323gk-users] Re: Re: Can't start the netmeeting > > > > > > > Well, I think it's going to take a greater mind than mine to help at > > > this point. I'm fresh out of ideas. Hopefully someone else following > > > this thread has some. And no, you weren't wasting my time. There are a > > > lot of people here much more expert at gnugk than I am. > > > > > > I would be interested to find out why 2.04 didn't work for you though... > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 2003-06-23 at 15:14, Cody wrote: > > > > Hi, Marc, > > > > > > > > >Where are your calls originating from and destined to? Internet->LAN? > > > > >LAN->LAN? > > > > I had tried at: Internet->LAN, Internet->Internet > > > > >Are you registering NM with the GK? If so, are there any GK or NM > > > > errors while registering? > > > > Yes, I have registering NM with the GK, because I using the Gatekeeper > > > > GUI on the server and saw; > > > > "RCF|xxx.xxx.xxx.79:1720|Cody:h323_ID|terminal|7443_DChk" > > > > >Were you able to perform the usability tests outlined in the docs? > > > > Yes, I had following the docs on the > > > > http://www.gnugk.org/h323manual.html. and setting the NM 3.01 > > > > gatekeeper. > > > > >Are all endpoints used for testing NM 3.01? > > > > Yes, all the endpoints used NM 3.01 for testing > > > > >Have you considered using GK 2.04 or CVS? > > > > Yes, firstly I had download the GK 2.04. But it does not work on my > > > > system. So I try to 2.03 and it can work. > > > > My system using the Mandrake 9.1. > > > > >I assume you've opened those ports on your firewall that are specified > > > > in your gnugk.ini file, yes? > > > > Yes, I sure opened all the ports on my system that are specified in your > > > > gnugk.ini > > > > > > > > When I using the NM 3.01 call other endpoints. The Gatekeeper GUI was > > > > showed me. > > > > ACF|xxx.xxx.xxx.79:1720|7443_DChk|479|Rezipa:h323_ID|Cody:h323_ID=Cody:h > > > > 323_ID|false; > > > > > > > > After the NM 3.01 timeout. The Gatekeeper GUI was showed this message. > > > > CDR|2|28 81 b4 af 4f 47 aa 40 83 15 63 02 15 83 f6 79|0|unconnected|Tue, > > > > 24 Jun 2003 03:45:54 > > > > +0800|202.81.249.79:1720|7443_DChk|192.168.0.4:1720|7444_DChk|Rezipa:h32 > > > > 3_ID|Cody:h323_ID=Cody:h323_ID|OpenH323GK; > > > > DCF|202.81.249.79|7443_DChk|479|normalDrop; > > > > > > > > Thank for your help. I hope to not waste your time. > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > Cody > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU > > > > Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. > > > > Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. You Get 10% Monthly Commission! > > > > INetU Dedicated Managed Hosting http://www.inetu.net/partner/index.php > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > List: Openh323gk-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > Archive: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8549 > > > > Homepage: http://www.gnugk.org/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email is sponsored by: INetU > > > Attention Web Developers & Consultants: Become An INetU Hosting Partner. > > > Refer Dedicated Servers. We Manage Them. 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