Casey Marshall <csm@xxxxxxx> writes: > And in the next sentence he talks about compatibility, which politely > seems to be mentioning Sun's fear of forks yet again, which they will > probably never drop. That annoys me because it's nonsense isn't it? We have an effective fork of Java now - Free VMs + Classpath. The FSF hasn't signed any legal agreements with Sun and yet we have this Java implementation. I could take that and new operators or classes or whatever I liked. It's not a true fork though because Sun claim rights to the name Java and won't let me call my fork Java. But that's got nothing to do with licences for source code. The GPL would be perfect for Java because it reduces the commecial incentive to fork the product and means that anything developed on it would be free anyway to be reincorporated if it was any good. So, to sum up. They're just shyster lawyers. And you know what Sheakspeare said about them. -- Nic Ferrier http://www.tapsellferrier.co.uk for all your tapsell ferrier needs