Gee, thanks for the rant. Mind you, I guess I didn't have to read it =) Regarding the window switcher issue, I don't see where the problem is. I use Gnome 14.04.04 (Gnome Shell 3.10.4) and WITHOUT any fancy extensions, I can plainly see the highlighted program when I use Alt+Tab. I've included a link to a screenshot to demonstrate : https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BzPNfdf2kD6VSk1SQlQ2TjJmcGM If you have a different set-up, then may I suggest (as Summers Pittman did) that you visit https://extensions.gnome.org & try either Alternative Tab or Alt-Alt+Tab ... searching for Alt+Tab shows 19 result, admittedly not ALL what you're looking for, but hey. As for the bright-yellow title-bar, why not simply try a whole other theme? There are lots out there to choose from ... BTW : do you have gnome-tweak-tool (<-- package name) installed? That allows you to easily apply a theme, as well as tweak a few other things in Gnome. ________________________________________ From: gnome-list <gnome-list-bounces@xxxxxxxxx> on behalf of gnome-list-request@xxxxxxxxx <gnome-list-request@xxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, 14 May 2016 12:00 a.m. To: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx Subject: gnome-list Digest, Vol 144, Issue 3 Send gnome-list mailing list submissions to gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnome-list-request@xxxxxxxxx You can reach the person managing the list at gnome-list-owner@xxxxxxxxx When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnome-list digest..." Today's Topics: 1. problems with gnome 3 window switcher (Britton Kerin) 2. is there a higher-traffic forum? (Britton Kerin) 3. Re: problems with gnome 3 window switcher (Summers Pittman ?) 4. still not able to change window title bar color [rant] (Britton Kerin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:53:24 -0800 From: Britton Kerin <britton.kerin@xxxxxxxxx> To: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx Subject: problems with gnome 3 window switcher Message-ID: <CAC4O8c-ySrbvUvP-9uF-qmma=yh5v5hHtYJmatLmVYD2yAQxhw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 First of all I actually quite like gnome 3 after all the horror stories I'm pleasantly surprised it's mostly awesome. Gnome classic seems to work pretty good. There are a couple things I hate though. One is the way the window switcher (Alt-tab) and window focus indication works. In gnome 2 I used to get a thick black line around the potential window to be selected while alt-tabbing through them. I had theme such that focused window title was bright yellow, others gray. Now while tabbing the only feedback is on the selector showing the icons.. So when I have 4-6 terms open and I try to tab to a different one, I have NO IDEA which one I have selected, which is super annoying. The problem is made worse by the fact that the focused window title bar/border is only a tiny bit lighter shade of gray than all the other windows. I've tried dconf-editor but haven't found any options that change the colors. What I would like: * box around window to be focused while alt-tabbing, like in gnome 2 * focused window get yellow or at least non-gray title bar Ideas greatly appreciated. Thanks, Britton ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 11:54:27 -0800 From: Britton Kerin <britton.kerin@xxxxxxxxx> To: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx Subject: is there a higher-traffic forum? Message-ID: <CAC4O8c-Are1QfpbQj5wJZf1ngWDkPu2wbS_jmiCe7wVTYYrPbQ@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 it seems the traffic on this list is pretty low for all of gnome. Is there somewhere else better to post? Thanks, Britton ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 16:06:47 -0400 From: Summers Pittman ? <secondsun@xxxxxxxxx> To: Britton Kerin <britton.kerin@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: problems with gnome 3 window switcher Message-ID: <CAHK_qPsm3jsWdbrp2pJ=8kpBX=TzLtyQ3euaWuhsOqjbZQChuA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:53 PM, Britton Kerin <britton.kerin@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > First of all I actually quite like gnome 3 after all the horror > stories I'm pleasantly surprised it's mostly awesome. Gnome classic > seems to work pretty good. > > There are a couple things I hate though. One is the way the window > switcher (Alt-tab) and window focus indication works. > > In gnome 2 I used to get a thick black line around the potential > window to be selected while alt-tabbing through them. I had theme > such that focused window title was bright yellow, others gray. > > Now while tabbing the only feedback is on the selector showing the > icons.. So when I have 4-6 terms open and I try to tab to a different > one, I have NO IDEA which one I have selected, which is super > annoying. The problem is made worse by the fact that the focused > window title bar/border is only a tiny bit lighter shade of gray than > all the other windows. I've tried dconf-editor but haven't > found any options that change the colors. > > What I would like: > > * box around window to be focused while alt-tabbing, like in gnome 2 > * focused window get yellow or at least non-gray title bar > > Ideas greatly appreciated. Check extensions.gnome.org for a bunch of things that knock off some of the more rude ideas from Unity and OS X. To get the good window switcher I use this : https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/15/alternatetab/ > > Thanks, > Britton > _______________________________________________ > gnome-list mailing list > gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 13:53:31 -0800 From: Britton Kerin <britton.kerin@xxxxxxxxx> To: gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx Subject: still not able to change window title bar color [rant] Message-ID: <CAC4O8c919LGJTo2nDpL2tP3C5Udni_js+ax92y-QamRpxavAFg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 so I thought I was close finding these: http://worldofgnome.org/how-to-hack-gnomes-adwaita-gtk-theme/ http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479239 and I can do things like make everything red as described in the example. But nothing that I could find lets me set just the color of the focused window titlebar. Some observations about my experience trying to do this: * Why does gnome use ~/.local and ~/.config? They think they the center of my fcking universe that they take these generic names? * How do I know if I want ~/.local or ~/.config? Lots of functional overlap to look at the files * So I make my own myAdwaita theme as described. Now do I want to change things in metacity-1 or gtk-3.0? They seem to overlap. But metacity-1 doesn't seem to have any effect, so I guess it's not that * in metacity-1 dir, why do we have both metacity-theme-2.xml and metacity-theme-3.xml? Which do I want? They don't describe themselves. No other files in ~/.local or ~/.config refers to either of them. * gnome-shell --replace causes most of my desktop to crash after a few times, without having made any changes other than going to red and back as described in the example. Hard reboot required. Guess I'll be logout/login between every change then Folks, this is BS. Wanting to be able to tell which window is focused without searching for a cursor (which is what I currently end up doing) is not too much to ask. Either stop prioritizing prettyness over usability or give users some sane way to change settings. If you're going to stick things in ~/.dotfiles make them sane and self-describing. I'm starting to get the same feeling from gnome that I do from systemd. You post to a list about with an obvious deficiency or advice and get... nothing. I mean I might be in favor of systemd if the devels appeared to care even slightly about input but they just ignore it ------------------------------ Subject: Digest Footer _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list ------------------------------ End of gnome-list Digest, Vol 144, Issue 3 ****************************************** _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list