On Sun, 2013-02-17 at 23:57 -0800, Dylan McCall wrote: > On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 8:24 PM, Ma Xiaojun <damage3025@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Well, GNOME fans, can you answer me a simple question: > > Does using GNOME require skills like text file editing and/or command line? > If you're using GNOME to administer an email server? Yes, of course! > An attentive reader will of course say "there's no GNOME app for > administering a mail server," to which I would respond: "Precisely!" > and "But actually, there's a perfect one: Terminal. It's very > familiar, and it even has colours." Actually there is "YaST" on SuSE / openSUSE. And there is gyrus. So there is a bit of love for that topic. But, correct, it is primarily a command-line thing; but that is a sys-admin task, not an end-user task. BTW, I do administer mail servers from GNOME. Very happily. > to run Firefox with a particular command line if you want to use a > specific profile, or even to open the profile chooser. (With that > said, you might be interested in the ProfileSwitcher extension). Yep. > JAR files? Yeah, I'm not a fan of those either. With OpenJDK, at > least, you can execute a jar application if you right click it and > choose the JRE from "Open With", but it does seem a little unhelpful > that File Roller is the default handler. Fortunately, there are > definitely some nice ways to solve this that don't involve menu > editors :) I access JAR files via file-roller regularly. It seems correct to me. Often times there is nothing straight-forward about launching a JAR file - which entry point of the JAR file did you want? But who is randomly scooping up JAR files are trying to run them? That is an *extremely* esoteric thing to do. My one and only time I needed to create an XDG .desktop file was/is to run a proprietary Java application; as it does not package a .desktop file. That is a bug in the application. And Java apps are generally very poorly designed in how they name and reference resources - so that particular task is really one for a developer. Generally the name of their main window in the window stack ends up being org.launcher.Launcher... and something stupid. > Anyway, launchers. I think the nicest way about this is to simply > notice that in GNOME 3, launchers (and search providers) are very much > static things that belong (with a near one-to-one relationship) to > applications, Yes, of course, because applications are what you "launch". > So, you want to choose between different profiles for Firefox? > Great! Do that with Firefox Yep, which is where it should have been all along. > When I first looked at GNOME 3 I was kind of put off as well. I cut my > losses and let the shell guide my workflow a little more, and as soon > as I did that it suddenly turned into my favourite thing ever. Same here. <http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com/2011/05/fortnight-with-gnome3.html> > So, err, if you just block the Linux desktop stuff from your memory and > let GNOME 3 be its own thing for a moment, it could lead somewhere > surprisingly nice. I became glad all the weird cruft is gone. And the additional tools like Overview [which does documents as well as applications] and the GNOME Journal [AWESOME!] are great productivity enhancments. It is all about the content and the data after all; get me to the applications that get me to my data. <https://live.gnome.org/GnomeActivityJournal> Install it yesterday! -- Adam Tauno Williams <awilliam@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> _______________________________________________ gnome-list mailing list gnome-list@xxxxxxxxx https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-list