On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 8:57 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Pranith,
Unfortunately, we don't have similar hardware for a small scale test. All we have is our production hardware.
You said something about /home partition which has lesser disks, we can create plain distribute volume inside one of those directories. After we are done, we can remove the setup. What do you say?
Pat
On 05/11/2017 07:05 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
On Thu, May 11, 2017 at 2:48 AM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:--
Hi Pranith,
Since we are mounting the partitions as the bricks, I tried the dd test writing to <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>. The results without oflag=sync were 1.6 Gb/s (faster than gluster but not as fast as I was expecting given the 1.2 Gb/s to the no-gluster area w/ fewer disks).
Okay, then 1.6Gb/s is what we need to target for, considering your volume is just distribute. Is there any way you can do tests on similar hardware but at a small scale? Just so we can run the workload to learn more about the bottlenecks in the system? We can probably try to get the speed to 1.2Gb/s on your /home partition you were telling me yesterday. Let me know if that is something you are okay to do.
Pat
On 05/10/2017 01:27 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 10:15 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Pranith,
Not entirely sure (this isn't my area of expertise). I'll run your answer by some other people who are more familiar with this.
I am also uncertain about how to interpret the results when we also add the dd tests writing to the /home area (no gluster, still on the same machine)
Given that the non-gluster area is a RAID-6 of 4 disks while each brick of the gluster area is a RAID-6 of 32 disks, I would naively expect the writes to the gluster area to be roughly 8x faster than to the non-gluster.
- dd test without oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
- gluster w/ fuse mount : 570 Mb/s
- gluster w/ nfs mount: 390 Mb/s
- nfs (no gluster): 1.2 Gb/s
- dd test with oflag=sync (rough average of multiple tests)
- gluster w/ fuse mount: 5 Mb/s
- gluster w/ nfs mount: 200 Mb/s
- nfs (no gluster): 20 Mb/s
I think a better test is to try and write to a file using nfs without any gluster to a location that is not inside the brick but someother location that is on same disk(s). If you are mounting the partition as the brick, then we can write to a file inside .glusterfs directory, something like <brick-path>/.glusterfs/<file-to-be-removed-after-test>.
I still think we have a speed issue, I can't tell if fuse vs nfs is part of the problem.I got interested in the post because I read that fuse speed is lesser than nfs speed which is counter-intuitive to my understanding. So wanted clarifications. Now that I got my clarifications where fuse outperformed nfs without sync, we can resume testing as described above and try to find what it is. Based on your email-id I am guessing you are from Boston and I am from Bangalore so if you are okay with doing this debugging for multiple days because of timezones, I will be happy to help. Please be a bit patient with me, I am under a release crunch but I am very curious with the problem you posted.
--Was there anything useful in the profiles?
Unfortunately profiles didn't help me much, I think we are collecting the profiles from an active volume, so it has a lot of information that is not pertaining to dd so it is difficult to find the contributions of dd. So I went through your post again and found something I didn't pay much attention to earlier i.e. oflag=sync, so did my own tests on my setup with FUSE so sent that reply.
Pat
On 05/10/2017 12:15 PM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
Does it answer your doubts?Okay good. At least this validates my doubts. Handling O_SYNC in gluster NFS and fuse is a bit different.When application opens a file with O_SYNC on fuse mount then each write syscall has to be written to disk as part of the syscall where as in case of NFS, there is no concept of open. NFS performs write though a handle saying it needs to be a synchronous write, so write() syscall is performed first then it performs fsync(). so an write on an fd with O_SYNC becomes write+fsync. I am suspecting that when multiple threads do this write+fsync() operation on the same file, multiple writes are batched together to be written do disk so the throughput on the disk is increasing is my guess.
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:35 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:--
Without the oflag=sync and only a single test of each, the FUSE is going faster than NFS:
FUSE:
mseas-data2(dri_nascar)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096 bs=1048576 of=zeros.txt conv=sync
4096+0 records in
4096+0 records out
4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 7.46961 s, 575 MB/s
NFS
mseas-data2(HYCOM)% dd if=/dev/zero count=4096 bs=1048576 of=zeros.txt conv=sync
4096+0 records in
4096+0 records out
4294967296 bytes (4.3 GB) copied, 11.4264 s, 376 MB/s
On 05/10/2017 11:53 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
Could you let me know the speed without oflag=sync on both the mounts? No need to collect profiles.
On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Pat Haley <phaley@xxxxxxx> wrote:--
Here is what I see now:
[root@mseas-data2 ~]# gluster volume info
Volume Name: data-volume
Type: Distribute
Volume ID: c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18
Status: Started
Number of Bricks: 2
Transport-type: tcp
Bricks:
Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1
Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2
Options Reconfigured:
diagnostics.count-fop-hits: on
diagnostics.latency-measurement: on
nfs.exports-auth-enable: on
diagnostics.brick-sys-log-level: WARNING
performance.readdir-ahead: on
nfs.disable: on
nfs.export-volumes: off
On 05/10/2017 11:44 AM, Pranith Kumar Karampuri wrote:
Is this the volume info you have?I copied this from old thread from 2016. This is distribute volume. Did you change any of the options in between?
> [root at mseas-data2 ~]# gluster volume info > > Volume Name: data-volume > Type: Distribute > Volume ID: c162161e-2a2d-4dac-b015-f31fd89ceb18 > Status: Started > Number of Bricks: 2 > Transport-type: tcp > Bricks: > Brick1: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick1 > Brick2: mseas-data2:/mnt/brick2 > Options Reconfigured: > performance.readdir-ahead: on > nfs.disable: on > nfs.export-volumes: off-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=- Pat Haley Email: phaley@xxxxxxx Center for Ocean Engineering Phone: (617) 253-6824 Dept. of Mechanical Engineering Fax: (617) 253-8125 MIT, Room 5-213 http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/ 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139-4301 Pranith-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=- Pat Haley Email: phaley@xxxxxxx Center for Ocean Engineering Phone: (617) 253-6824 Dept. of Mechanical Engineering Fax: (617) 253-8125 MIT, Room 5-213 http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/ 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139-4301 Pranith-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=- Pat Haley Email: phaley@xxxxxxx Center for Ocean Engineering Phone: (617) 253-6824 Dept. of Mechanical Engineering Fax: (617) 253-8125 MIT, Room 5-213 http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/ 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139-4301 Pranith-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=- Pat Haley Email: phaley@xxxxxxx Center for Ocean Engineering Phone: (617) 253-6824 Dept. of Mechanical Engineering Fax: (617) 253-8125 MIT, Room 5-213 http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/ 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139-4301 Pranith-- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= -=-=- Pat Haley Email: phaley@xxxxxxx Center for Ocean Engineering Phone: (617) 253-6824 Dept. of Mechanical Engineering Fax: (617) 253-8125 MIT, Room 5-213 http://web.mit.edu/phaley/www/ 77 Massachusetts Avenue Cambridge, MA 02139-4301
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