Jon Seymour <jon.seymour@xxxxxxxxx> writes: > | Junio: apologies, reply missed list. Edited slightly. > > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 7:53 AM, Junio C Hamano <gitster@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> David Aguilar <davvid@xxxxxxxxx> writes: >> >>> On Apr 28, 2011, at 3:56 AM, Jon Seymour <jon.seymour@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>>> What is so hard about the concept of an application providing a >>>> ... > > It would be good if something like: > > unzip -d $(git --plugins-dir) foobar.zip > > installed scripts, info files and man pages into a place where git > would find them and then have git foobar start working without any > additional effort by the package author or user. That should be doable without any elaborate "plugin management". We only need to enhance the git potty and help system to look for things in a set of new directories, and have these unzip installation put their stuff there. >> [Footnote] >> >> *1* I admit that I didn't read all of them carefully, as I was repelled by >> them as soon as I saw phrases like "for people who can grok this concept". > > Junio: at least quote me accurately. I actually wrote: > > "Contributors who grok the concept as I conceive it are welcome to > submit pull requests." > > I am a little mystified why use of the word "grok" in this way, given the > circumstances, caused you to be "repelled". What repelled me was not any particular word (and that is exactly why I did not even bother to "quote") but your general attitude in the discussion. Your tone throughout the discussion appeared at least to me that you thought anybody who did not agree with you was incapable of understanding something so obvious and clearly right, and only those who could "grok" it deserved to join the discussion. We occasionally have seen such people on this list in the past, but luckily not very often. I am not saying that your thinking should always start from "I could be wrong". However, I do not think "What is so hard about the concept ...?" is the question you should be asking others before asking yourself "Is there a better way I could have explained this idea I want others to agree with? The reason why they are still not on the same page as I am could well be because all of them are morons, but it may be possible that it is because the way I have explained my idea to them was not optimal. Perhaps I did not present the motivation and the background well enough to justify that the problem I am trying to solve is worth solving, before throwing my idea on how to solve it". After all, different people have different needs and expectations. The discussion on a particular _solution_ can only start after you get people on board and share the sense of _need_ to solve something common. -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe git" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html