Re: GIMP release: 2.8.10 request, OS X

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Hi again!

On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Partha Bagchi <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi Sven,
>>
>> Have been away for the Thanksgiving holidays.:)
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:59 AM, scl <scl.gplus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> today there was [bugreport] about outdated builds for OSX.
>>>
>>> One reason for not being able to provide an official GIMP 2.8.8.
>>> on OS X build were serious issues on OS X Mavericks, for instance
>>> the [showstopper in the Text tool]. These have been solved in
>>> the meantime (thanks especially to Simone Karin Lehmann, Michael
>>> Natterer and Daniel Sabo).
>>>
>>> Therefore I think we should bring out GIMP 2.8.10 soon,
>>> including an official OS X build (preferably also for some older
>>> OS X versions). As far as I know Claytons build is at the ready.
>>> All we need is a 2.8.10 bump, don't we?
>>>
>>> This situation shows us another weakness again:
>>> there are at least four people working on an OS X release:
>>> Clayton Walker, Simone Karin Lehmann, Partha Bagchi and
>>> David Evans (Macports), not to mention the (still active?) maintainer
>>> of the outdated Fink build and the various people building GIMP
>>> on their own Macs. All of them do it in their rare spare time.
>>> All of them struggle alone with the special build issues of GIMP
>>> on OS X, its dependencies and the API incompatibilities between the
>>> various OS X versions.
>>> Can you guys and girls please find a way to work together?
>>> What makes it so hard to speak to another at the mailing list or IRC
>>> and unite your forces? Come on, we don't bite ;-)
>>>
>> Thanks for mentioning me. :)
>>
>> I am happy to collaborate with anyone on my builds. Note that I build Gimp
>> and all dependencies from scratch using OSX gcc version 4.2.1; that is, I
>> build gtk+, glib, pango, cairo etc. etc. etc. and then I build Gimp. I also
>> include plugins that I believe are useful to photographers, well at least
>> useful to me.
>
> This would be very nice.
> I have a few questions:
> 1/ Do you patch GIMP? Is it the reason why you make your own GIMP
> build? If so, would you please contribute us all your patches? We
> would be happy to check them and see what can be merged in our own
> source. We are already working on merging some of Simone Karin
> Lehmann's patches to improve our OSX code.
> 2/ Do you patch some of the third parties? GTK+, glib, etc. If so,
> have you tried to contributing upstream to these various projects?
> 3/ What is exactly the list of plugins you include in your build?
> 3/ Is there anything else which would prevent you to work with us on
> delivering a robust upstream OSX build (faster than currently after a
> source release!) instead of duplicating the work? Note that we have
> obviously nothing about third party builds. If you really wish to, you
> can still make your own builds (maybe slightly different), even though
> you would help us making the upstream one. But even so, this could
> profit to all of us, for instance by sharing build systems, thus
> improving the procedure.
> Ideally we could automatize all builds for very easy and early release!
>
> The way I see it, if we find a way to automatize builds, then we could
> generate them on a server with no further human input, and available
> for testers, which would make releases very easy to test (and
> regenerate in case of issue) before any release.

By the way! Since you also maintain a Windows build, all above
questions would also pertain to your Windows build!

Jehan

>> Finally, it's not really feasible for me to come to IRC and hence I loose
>> out on some of those discussion.
>
> Why is that? As I said to Simone too, I am not fond of IRC myself and
> probably don't connect as much as the other contributors, but I make
> some time to hang around there. If this is the price of collaboration,
> it is not too high. Or is that a technical impossibility? (behind some
> port-blocking firewall in a company or something?)
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jehan
>
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Sven
>>>
>> Thanks again,
>> Partha
>>
>>>
>>> [bugreport]:
>>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715094
>>>
>>> [showstopper in the Text tool]:
>>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711281
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