Hi again! On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Jehan Pagès <jehan.marmottard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Partha Bagchi <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Hi Sven, >> >> Have been away for the Thanksgiving holidays.:) >> >> On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:59 AM, scl <scl.gplus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> today there was [bugreport] about outdated builds for OSX. >>> >>> One reason for not being able to provide an official GIMP 2.8.8. >>> on OS X build were serious issues on OS X Mavericks, for instance >>> the [showstopper in the Text tool]. These have been solved in >>> the meantime (thanks especially to Simone Karin Lehmann, Michael >>> Natterer and Daniel Sabo). >>> >>> Therefore I think we should bring out GIMP 2.8.10 soon, >>> including an official OS X build (preferably also for some older >>> OS X versions). As far as I know Claytons build is at the ready. >>> All we need is a 2.8.10 bump, don't we? >>> >>> This situation shows us another weakness again: >>> there are at least four people working on an OS X release: >>> Clayton Walker, Simone Karin Lehmann, Partha Bagchi and >>> David Evans (Macports), not to mention the (still active?) maintainer >>> of the outdated Fink build and the various people building GIMP >>> on their own Macs. All of them do it in their rare spare time. >>> All of them struggle alone with the special build issues of GIMP >>> on OS X, its dependencies and the API incompatibilities between the >>> various OS X versions. >>> Can you guys and girls please find a way to work together? >>> What makes it so hard to speak to another at the mailing list or IRC >>> and unite your forces? Come on, we don't bite ;-) >>> >> Thanks for mentioning me. :) >> >> I am happy to collaborate with anyone on my builds. Note that I build Gimp >> and all dependencies from scratch using OSX gcc version 4.2.1; that is, I >> build gtk+, glib, pango, cairo etc. etc. etc. and then I build Gimp. I also >> include plugins that I believe are useful to photographers, well at least >> useful to me. > > This would be very nice. > I have a few questions: > 1/ Do you patch GIMP? Is it the reason why you make your own GIMP > build? If so, would you please contribute us all your patches? We > would be happy to check them and see what can be merged in our own > source. We are already working on merging some of Simone Karin > Lehmann's patches to improve our OSX code. > 2/ Do you patch some of the third parties? GTK+, glib, etc. If so, > have you tried to contributing upstream to these various projects? > 3/ What is exactly the list of plugins you include in your build? > 3/ Is there anything else which would prevent you to work with us on > delivering a robust upstream OSX build (faster than currently after a > source release!) instead of duplicating the work? Note that we have > obviously nothing about third party builds. If you really wish to, you > can still make your own builds (maybe slightly different), even though > you would help us making the upstream one. But even so, this could > profit to all of us, for instance by sharing build systems, thus > improving the procedure. > Ideally we could automatize all builds for very easy and early release! > > The way I see it, if we find a way to automatize builds, then we could > generate them on a server with no further human input, and available > for testers, which would make releases very easy to test (and > regenerate in case of issue) before any release. By the way! Since you also maintain a Windows build, all above questions would also pertain to your Windows build! Jehan >> Finally, it's not really feasible for me to come to IRC and hence I loose >> out on some of those discussion. > > Why is that? As I said to Simone too, I am not fond of IRC myself and > probably don't connect as much as the other contributors, but I make > some time to hang around there. If this is the price of collaboration, > it is not too high. Or is that a technical impossibility? (behind some > port-blocking firewall in a company or something?) > > Thanks! > > Jehan > >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Sven >>> >> Thanks again, >> Partha >> >>> >>> [bugreport]: >>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715094 >>> >>> [showstopper in the Text tool]: >>> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711281 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> gimp-developer-list mailing list >>> List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx >>> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp- >>> developer-list >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> gimp-developer-list mailing list >> List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx >> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list