Hi, On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:50 AM, Partha Bagchi <partha1b@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi Sven, > > Have been away for the Thanksgiving holidays.:) > > On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 4:59 AM, scl <scl.gplus@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> today there was [bugreport] about outdated builds for OSX. >> >> One reason for not being able to provide an official GIMP 2.8.8. >> on OS X build were serious issues on OS X Mavericks, for instance >> the [showstopper in the Text tool]. These have been solved in >> the meantime (thanks especially to Simone Karin Lehmann, Michael >> Natterer and Daniel Sabo). >> >> Therefore I think we should bring out GIMP 2.8.10 soon, >> including an official OS X build (preferably also for some older >> OS X versions). As far as I know Claytons build is at the ready. >> All we need is a 2.8.10 bump, don't we? >> >> This situation shows us another weakness again: >> there are at least four people working on an OS X release: >> Clayton Walker, Simone Karin Lehmann, Partha Bagchi and >> David Evans (Macports), not to mention the (still active?) maintainer >> of the outdated Fink build and the various people building GIMP >> on their own Macs. All of them do it in their rare spare time. >> All of them struggle alone with the special build issues of GIMP >> on OS X, its dependencies and the API incompatibilities between the >> various OS X versions. >> Can you guys and girls please find a way to work together? >> What makes it so hard to speak to another at the mailing list or IRC >> and unite your forces? Come on, we don't bite ;-) >> > Thanks for mentioning me. :) > > I am happy to collaborate with anyone on my builds. Note that I build Gimp > and all dependencies from scratch using OSX gcc version 4.2.1; that is, I > build gtk+, glib, pango, cairo etc. etc. etc. and then I build Gimp. I also > include plugins that I believe are useful to photographers, well at least > useful to me. This would be very nice. I have a few questions: 1/ Do you patch GIMP? Is it the reason why you make your own GIMP build? If so, would you please contribute us all your patches? We would be happy to check them and see what can be merged in our own source. We are already working on merging some of Simone Karin Lehmann's patches to improve our OSX code. 2/ Do you patch some of the third parties? GTK+, glib, etc. If so, have you tried to contributing upstream to these various projects? 3/ What is exactly the list of plugins you include in your build? 3/ Is there anything else which would prevent you to work with us on delivering a robust upstream OSX build (faster than currently after a source release!) instead of duplicating the work? Note that we have obviously nothing about third party builds. If you really wish to, you can still make your own builds (maybe slightly different), even though you would help us making the upstream one. But even so, this could profit to all of us, for instance by sharing build systems, thus improving the procedure. Ideally we could automatize all builds for very easy and early release! The way I see it, if we find a way to automatize builds, then we could generate them on a server with no further human input, and available for testers, which would make releases very easy to test (and regenerate in case of issue) before any release. > Finally, it's not really feasible for me to come to IRC and hence I loose > out on some of those discussion. Why is that? As I said to Simone too, I am not fond of IRC myself and probably don't connect as much as the other contributors, but I make some time to hang around there. If this is the price of collaboration, it is not too high. Or is that a technical impossibility? (behind some port-blocking firewall in a company or something?) Thanks! Jehan >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Sven >> > Thanks again, > Partha > >> >> [bugreport]: >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=715094 >> >> [showstopper in the Text tool]: >> https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=711281 >> _______________________________________________ >> gimp-developer-list mailing list >> List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx >> List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp- >> developer-list >> > _______________________________________________ > gimp-developer-list mailing list > List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx > List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list _______________________________________________ gimp-developer-list mailing list List address: gimp-developer-list@xxxxxxxxx List membership: https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer-list
