On Sun, 2011-01-30 at 01:43 +0100, Bogdan Szczurek wrote: > The thing is, that we concluded that permamenet transition or even > occasional use of Gimp would be much more appealing for Ps-bred guys > (like me ;)) if one would have possibility to use the same (or at least > much similar) keyboard shortcuts. There's some danger here -- as people in Germany found when they compared moving to KDE or Gnome from Windows: when the new system is too similar to the old, people start going into automatic mode, and trip up much more over the differences. When I first started using the "evolution" gnome mail program, I couldn't at first figure out why I kept sending out unedited drafts... then I realised it was because it was enough like Sun's mailtool I'd used a decade earlier that without thinking, I was pressing the command to go to the start/top of my message, to re-read before sending, but in evolution that same keypress meant "send immediately without asking for confirmation"! I'd used a non-gui mailer for about 10 years in the meantime, and had totally forgotten. > So, how about a small extension to GUI to let one choose one of > predefined shortcut sets and including âPhotoshop compatibleâ shortcuts > to the source tree? I know many people would be much pleased > with that, since a seasoned Ps user tend to rather âjust poke the right > keyâ to do his bidding that to wander through the menu. I'm not trying > to prove one shortcut scheme better than the other. Getting people started using gimp can be a good thing, although this can also make it harder for them to progress beyond the intersection of PhotoShop and GIMP. One also has to be aware that Adobe has in the past filed (successfully) law suits against competitors who were copying PhotoShop user interface features -- the key bindings are part of Adobe's intellectual property, they would probably argue. Given those things, I'd prefer to provide a really good "Libre Graphics for Photoshop Users" that talks also about when to use GIMP and when to use Inkscape, ImageMagick, darktable (if you can figure the damn thing out). The "default image" in krita is one good example of how to give useful information, even though I'd still prefer a blank image. So, how about Help->Getting Started ? I'll help write it, if there's agreement that it could be included. I dare say that "Adobe-style keybindings" could be included too, since the GIMP project isn't very rich (and therefore Adobe would be unlikely to recoup their legal costs if they went after us) -- if there are objections, we could just remove the bindings. Liam -- Liam Quin - XML Activity Lead, W3C, http://www.w3.org/People/Quin/ Pictures from old books: http://fromoldbooks.org/ Ankh on irc.gnome.org; sometime blog http://www.barefootliam.org/ _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer