On 06/10/2009 04:33 PM, Simon Budig wrote: > gg (gg@xxxxxxxxxxx) wrote: >> Subsequent Save as png should automatically set the default file name to >> /path/foo.png . > > *Please* try to be exact in this discussion. You *cannot* "Save as PNG", > you can only "Export as PNG". The *only* format you can "Save" to is XCF > and its compressed variants. > > Thanks, > Simon I have tried to stay out of this, but I can't resist any longer. It is likely my own ignorance and/or not having seen a previous related discussion, but..... Why is there such a strong distinction between "Save As" and "Export"? To the _user_ what benefit is this distinction? My 2.6.6 (on Ubuntu Linux) does _not_ have an "Export" on the menu that I can find. If I open a JPG, add a layer to it, and then use the "Save As" menu item to get the "Save As" dialog and if I change the extent to .PNG, I then get a dialog regarding Export. All well and good. But to the _user_ that is just another necessary step in the process of "Saving As" a file to a format that cannot handle whatever features (layer, in this case) are currently in the working (unsaved) file. "Exporting" it is not something that (at least that I can find in my Gimp) the user can do from the menu. However, I have used a number of other programs where Export is a menu item -- and I have not really understood why that Export was offered separately. In those programs, one could Save As to a few dozen formats, but had to use Export to accomplish a similar goal to a few other formats. To the _user_, additional "exporting" steps are required, in this case, in the process of doing "Save As". But to speak of "Export" as a distinct task I do not quite understand. Nor do I understand why it seems to be an issue as a distinct task. What am I missing? (I am not referring to why this discussion has been ongoing, i.e. how it works; I am just wondering about the semantics and trying to better understand what the posters are wishing to accomplish with their choice of words.) Or is this discussion / plan headed toward adding "Export" as a distinct menu item. But, if so, why? How does that help the user? My understanding of all uses of "Save As" is: A new file is created that includes any changes made to the old file (within the scope of the capability of the new filetype), and unless that new file specifically overwrites the old file, the old file is closed without saving possible changes that might have been made to the old file. BTW, that Export dialog has a "Help" button. I think there is a bug or not-yet-implemented feature, because that "Help" button gets an "Eeek!" page on my system: /usr/share/gimp/2.0/help/en/help-missing.html whereas the "Help" button on the actual "Save As" dialog _does_ get a proper page of help info. Should this be reported on Bugzilla or is it just one of those things still in process? Jay _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
