On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:45:55 +0200, Sven Neumann <sven@xxxxxxxx> wrote: On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 21:22 +0200, Raphaël Quinet wrote: > > [...] However, for > > greater consistency with other tools I think that it would be better > > to consider the state of the modifiers _before_ the first click > > instead of when pressing Enter. > > That does IMO not make sense. The SIOX tool, just like the Intelligent > Scissors tool requires the user to work on the selection outline for > quite a while. It makes much more sense to respect the modifiers when > the selection is actually created and that happens at the end, when the > user confirms her work and presses Enter. Users may have a different understanding of what is meant by "when the selection is actually created". Or different expectations. We know that it is only done at the end. But I would not be surprised that many users would consider the first click to be "when the selection is actually created" -- they probably do not care about the difference between a solid outline and marching ants, or between a masked foreground/background and marching ants. They probably consider only when they start defining that selection. Anyway, my main argument is that it would be more consistent with the other tools: the other selection tools, the transform tools and the zoom tool only consider the state of the modifiers before the first click. Subsequent changes to the modifiers are ignored even if you spend quite some time modifying the selection, the transform parameters or the zoom area: only the initial state matters. I actually made the wrong assumption once or twice with the iscissors: I wanted to add a new area to a selection so I pressed Shift before clicking on the first point, then added more points, closed the shape, clicked inside it and poof! my selection was gone. I naively thought that it would behave as described above and I did not press Shift for the final click. I lost my selection and I had no way to undo/redo this, except by re-selecting. But maybe I am the only one who has this expectation for the selection tools? I don't know. Only some usability tests could tell what is best... -Raphaël _______________________________________________ Gimp-developer mailing list Gimp-developer@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.XCF.Berkeley.EDU/mailman/listinfo/gimp-developer
