Re: proposal for better status bar messages (long)

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Hi,

On Wed, 2006-06-21 at 21:22 +0200, Raphaël Quinet wrote:
> Here is a proposal for improving the messages that are shown in the
> status bar.  Such messages would be very useful for describing some
> hidden features of the paint tools (bug #124040) but also for the
> other tools.
> 
> Basically, I followed this approach: anything that causes a tool to
> change its behavior (clicking, dragging or using some modifiers such
> as Ctrl and Shift) should be displayed or suggested in the status bar.
> Simon has already done that for the path/vector tool and I would like
> to apply that to all tools.

A little late to come up with that now. The status bar messages have
been waiting for an update for quite a while now. But better late than
never. If you want to see such messages in 2.4, hurry up, the string
freeze is coming.

> RECTANGLE SELECTION (app/tools/gimpselectiontool.c, gimprectangletool.c)
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Some of the current status bar messages are defined in
> libgimpbase/gimpbaseenums.c.  These messages are OK to describe the
> undo steps or for PDB help texts, but better messages should be
> used for the status bar messages.

I would suggest that the selection tools are finished before status bar
messages are being added. The current state is likely going to change
and translators will go crazy if we change the messages over and over
again.

> FOREGROUND EXTRACTION TOOL (app/tools/gimpforegroundselecttool.c)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------
> The current messages are fine, except that I they should suggest to
> use Shift or Ctrl to add/subtract/intersect selections.  Something
> like "(try Shift+Enter, Ctrl+Enter)" could be useful and "accept the
> selection" would be replaced by the appropriate action.  However, for
> greater consistency with other tools I think that it would be better
> to consider the state of the modifiers _before_ the first click
> instead of when pressing Enter.

That does IMO not make sense. The SIOX tool, just like the Intelligent
Scissors tool requires the user to work on the selection outline for
quite a while. It makes much more sense to respect the modifiers when
the selection is actually created and that happens at the end, when the
user confirms her work and presses Enter.


Sven


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